Is it just a talking shop?

Contributed by editor on Nov 11, 2005 - 11:33 AM



Dear Ed,

Every month without fail I read the copy of the Hawkinge local community magazine The Roundel, and the article I head for first is the report on the Parish Council by Cllr Joan Brisley. It never fails to amuse and at the same time astonish me.

In this month's edition, it is again bemoaning the lack of litter and dog waste bins, but as I see it, the Parish Council of which Joan is a member, have the powers to address this issue. I am asking myself, are the Council merely a talking shop?

This point brings me to the paragraph concerning the Hawkinge Civic Society.

Perhaps someone can tell me why it was necessary to resurrect the society after 35 years? 

Was it as I believe that there is a power vacuum at local level?

In my view the Parish Council should have been the proper place to air grievances and not the Hawkinge Civic Society. But then we are back to the first question, which again must be asked, is the Parish Council just a talking shop?

Name and address supplied

Top band plays exclusive Folkestone gig

Contributed by editor on Nov 10, 2005 - 04:44 PM



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Primal Scream to perform a one-off gig at the Leas Cliff Hall

Electronic punk-pop pioneers Primal Scream are to perform a one off gig next month to debut new material from their forthcoming album.

The band have spent most of the year in the studio this year venturing out only to play a controversial gig at this year’s Glastonbury Festival. However, they will play a one-off gig in Folkestone on December 6.

Scream are o­ne of the UK's most respected and influential bands, continuing to defy conventions by producing consistently new and innovative material.

Tickets for the gig are priced at £17.50 and are o­n sale now from the Xfm Xchange on 0871 222 1049 or from the Xfm o­nline Ticket Shop by clicking here

Latest local crime 7/11/05 to 10/11/05

Contributed by editor on Nov 10, 2005 - 04:00 PM


Sheet 07/11 to 10/11


Between 1500hrs 29/10/05 & 2000hrs 31/10/05



Damage caused to wall


Between 2330hrs 07/11/05 & 0655hrs 08/11/05



Offender(s) unknown using sharp implement have forced both the downstairs toilet window at the front of the house and also the kitchen window at the rear (rear garden protected by fencing) this has caused damage to the window and frames. Untidy search made of kitchen and lounge area. The cupboards in the kitchen have been selectively searched and the money has been removed from glass jars and they have been left on the side, a vanity mirror was located outside, this had come from the downstairs toilet.


Between 2130hrs & 2250hrs 08/11/05

Attempted Burglary Other


Attempt made to force the padlock, no entry gained and nothing stolen. Entry to garden via gate leading from alleyway.


Between 1000hrs & 1400hrs 08/11/05



The Ip is reporting damage to garage door. Letters "A" and "S" written on the door it appears to be aerosol paint.


Between 1700hrs 08/11/05 & 0755hrs 09/11/05



Informant states that a low loader or similar has been used to gain access onto the field/building site. Once there they have stolen a JCB and 7tonne Dumper Truck.


Between 0001hrs 06/11/05 & 0800hrs 09/11/05



Offenders Thrown a brick through the glass of the front door, damage to the door behind the front door. No entry gained.

If you have any information in relation to any crime. Please contact the Watch Office on 01304 218151 or ring Crimestoppers 0800 555 111 You do not have to give your name and you maybe eligible for a reward.

To report suspicious incidents and problems you cannot resolve yourself 01303 850055


To report crime that has happened to you and the offenders have gone 01303 289134

If you would like to help with Neighbourhood Watch or would like to know more about what is involved, you can contact the Neighbourhood Watch & Parish Liaison Office at Dover Police Station on 01304 218151

Howard's Way 10 November 2005

Contributed by editor on Nov 10, 2005 - 01:00 PM

HOWARD'S WAY.... a weekly column from Michael Howard MP

10 November 2005

Those of your readers – and I am sure there will be many of them – who want to read a detailed account of Folkestone Invicta’s valiant performance at Chester in the First Round of the FA Cup last Saturday will no doubt turn to the sports pages.

But I would like to add a word or two from my perspective. It was a real privilege to be present. It was the first time Folkestone Invicta have reached the First Round and Neil Cugley’s team acquitted themselves with real distinction. They fully deserved their half-time lead from Adam Flanigan’s goal and, even after they lost that lead and fell a goal behind, fought ceaselessly to the very end.

As one of the home contingent, who made us all really welcome, said to me after the game:

“We’ve played many League Two teams this season who weren’t as good as you.�

All credit to the hundreds of fans from Folkestone who made the long trip to Chester, I am sure they thought it well worth while.

The long drive back to Kent after the game was illuminated by scores of firework displays decorating the night sky. This Guy Fawkes day was of course the 400th anniversary of the original plot to blow up the Houses of Parliament. I find it immensely reassuring that so many centuries later we still celebrate our deliverance from that conspiracy.

This week Parliament will be debating the most appropriate response to the terrorist threat we face today. As I write, the outcome remains uncertain.

What is clear, though, is that the Government have wholly failed to make the case for detaining, without charge, anyone suspected of involvement in a terrorist offence for three months – the equivalent of a six month prison sentence.

These powers could be used against anyone – as we saw at the recent Labour Party Conference.

I hope agreement on a lesser period can be reached. By the time you read this you will know the outcome.

Hawkinge youngsters urge council to provide youth amenities

Contributed by editor on Nov 10, 2005 - 11:13 AM



Members of the Hawkinge Youth Forum lobbied Hawkinge Parish councillors at last night's meeting ( 9 November) to provide facilities for the youngsters in the village.

The council heard representatives of the forum put forward ideas for investing in youth. Some of the ways they would like to see it achieved could include a skate park and the use of the Hawkinge Community Centre for sports and band practices.

The young people told the Parish Council they felt no-one wanted to invest in the youth of the village and all young people were being treated as troublemakers.

Hawkinge Parish Council will be discussing the issues at next month's meeting (14 December).

The Hawkinge Community Youth Forum meets every Wednesday at the Hawkinge Partnership Office in Canterbury Road, Hawkinge.

Latest local crime 31/10/05 to 6/11/05

Contributed by editor on Nov 09, 2005 - 01:52 PM


Sheet 31/10 to 6/11


Between 0740hrs & 2015hrs 03/11/05

Attempted Burglary


When Ip went to de-activate the alarm using pin-code when they noticed a red light showing on the alarm panel. This usually means the alarm has been set off. Ip could then hear the wind blowing and thought this was unusual as she thought all the windows were shut. Ip followed the noise of the wind and found the smallest kitchen window wide open. Ip recalls having the window open the day before and thinks maybe they did not secure it properly the night before. After going through the house realised no one had gained access. Nothing had been disturbed. Ip then went into the garden and found plastic plant trough had been taken off its stand which had been under the kitchen window so it looks as if the offender was attempting to gain access by standing on the planter stand and set off the alarm.


Between 0730hrs 31/10/05 & 1030hrs 04/11/05

Theft of Motor Vehicle



Between 1930hrs & 1931hrs 05/11/05



The Ip states that they heard a noise outside the house, looked out and saw a male pull the wing mirror from the car, the mirror was path side, and the Ip thinks that the male has done this as he may have considered the mirror to be in his way. The male appeared to be with his wife and kids, and their grandmother.


Between 0600hrs & 0730hrs 31/10/05



Ip states that overnight offender has removed the wheelie bin from the front drive and taken it about 40 yards along the road and smashed it up and thrown it into a hedgerow - with the rubbish being scattered all over.


Between 0915hrs & 1150hrs 01/11/05



IP reports that the porch door has been damaged. It seems that a nail has been jammed into the lock. Lock cannot be used now as nail has damaged the barrel.


Between 1845hrs & 2145hrs 01/11/05

Theft of Motor Vehicle



Between 0001hrs 31/10/05 & 1400hrs 02/11/04



IP reports that the downstairs window has been smashed with a lump of concrete.


Between 1600hrs 02/11/05 & 0730hrs 03/11/05



The Ip states that between the times stated unknown offenders have removed a garden pot from the front garden. The Ip also states that during the same evening there had been a violent knocking at the door. The Ip looked out but could not see anyone outside


Between 0001hrs 05/11/05 & 0900hrs 06/11/05



Informant states that there have been problems with damage to building recently. The informant states that the guttering has been pulled down and this has pulled the roofing tiles down. The informant also states that some bird feeders have also been thrown into the field behind the building.


If you have any information in relation to any crime. Please contact the Watch Office on 01304 218151 or ring Crimestoppers 0800 555 111 You do not have to give your name and you maybe eligible for a reward.

To report suspicious incidents and problems you cannot resolve yourself 01303 850055


To report crime that has happened to you and the offenders have gone 01303 289134

If you would like to help with Neighbourhood Watch or would like to know more about what is involved, you can contact the Neighbourhood Watch & Parish Liaison Office at Dover Police Station on 01304 218151

Hawkinge Parish Council agenda 9 November 2005

Contributed by editor on Nov 08, 2005 - 06:05 PM



The next meeting of the Parish Council will be held on Wed. 9th November 2005 at 7.30 p.m. in the Village Hall


The Chairman will take questions from parishioners. The number of speakers will be limited to five (time limit 3 minutes). 


1 Apologies

2 Declarations of Interest

Councillors should disclose personal or prejudicial interest/s in any item/s on this agenda. Councillors with a personal interest must describe and give details of the interest. Unless the personal interest amounts to a prejudicial interest, he/she may participate fully in the meeting. A prejudicial interest is one in which a member of the public, with knowledge of the relevant facts, would reasonably regard as so significant that it is likely to prejudice a Councillor’s judgement of the public interest. Anyone with a prejudicial interest must, unless an exception applies or a dispensation has been issued, withdraw from the meeting room.

Whenever possible, and if in doubt, advice should be sought from the Clerk prior to the meeting.

3 Minutes

To confirm and sign the minutes of the meeting held on 12th October 2005 (already circulated)

4 Matters arising out of the Minutes

5 Working Groups

(a) Appointment to Working Groups – Cllr. Avery

(b) Reports

Community Liaison

Planning and Development

Public Rights of Way 

Finance Group (see Finance item 8)

6 Other Bodies

Neighbourhood Management Partnership

(i) Report by councillors who attended the presentation on 1st November. 

(ii) Pathfinder Investment in Hawkinge April to September 2005 (enc.)

Community Centre

Village Hall

7 Hawkinge Football Ground

(a) The Football Project – Cllr. Trice

(b) Management of the ground – Cllr. Hodgson

8 Finance

(a) Finance Group meeting

Chairman to report recommendations of Finance Group regarding the budget for


(b) Payments

To approve payment of the accounts presented at the meeting (list enc.)

Any queries regarding accounts must be raised with the Clerk before the meeting.

9 Correspondence

(a) Mr J. Stack, Director of Regulatory Services, SDC: Shepway Town and Parish

Council Planning User Group: next meeting Tues. 15th Nov. Assembly Rooms, New Romney at 7 p.m.

(b) Action with Communities in Rural Kent – Annual Report

(c) CPRE - AGM to be held on Fri. 18th Nov. Harrietsham Village Hall at 2 pm

(d) Kent Police Authority – Restructuring of Police Forces in England & Wales (enc.)

(f) The Rural Housing Trust – Affordable village housing. Seminar 17th January 2006

Newchurch Village Hall (enc.)

10 Distribution of Minutes – Cllr. Trice

11 Plans

List of applications received enclosed. 

Please contact Cllr. Trice if you would like to view the plans before the meeting. 


To resolve that because publicity would be prejudicial to the public interest by

Reason of the confidential nature of business to be transacted the public (including the Press) be excluded from the meeting pursuant to the provision of sub section 100 & 102 of the Local Government Act, 1972.

13 Disposal of land – Chairman to give a progress report.

Any matters referred to the confidential section during the meeting

Lib Dem climb down over 'Black Hole' allegations

Contributed by editor on Nov 07, 2005 - 09:08 PM



Former Liberal Democrat Parliamentary Candidate Peter Carroll has agreed to apologise to a former Conservative Shepway District Councillor.

Colin Tearle

A libel action was brought by ex-Conservative Cabinet member Colin Tearle which named  the Liberal Democrat Agent Shaun Roberts,  Peter Carroll and the Shepway Liberal Democrats(SLD) as defendants.

Mr. Carroll,  Mr. Roberts and the SLD  agreed to apologise to Mr Tearle  and the apology has now been published on the SLD  website and will be included shortly in the SLD newspaper (Shepway News).

The defamatory words complained of by Mr Tearle related to an alleged 'Black Hole' in council finances by  the previous Conservative administration, the loss of finance in the administration of the Highways Budget and investment income.

Mr Tearle said this week: " This has been a dispute which has been going on since May 2004.

"I am more than satisfied that the allegations against me have been withdrawn and an apology made to me.

"The matter was settled out of court and a satisfactory financial settlement has been agreed".


Shepway Liberal Democrat Statement concerning Colin Tearle

In an edition of Shepway News published in May last year we ran an article which stated that "the last Conservative budget in Shepway led to a £700,000 black hole in Council finances". We did not intend to suggest that this was a deliberate act on the part of the Conservative Cabinet or Mr Tearle, only that it was an unforeseen consequence.

We are completely satisfied that it was the Council which entered into the Highways Agency Agreement and not the Contract Services Board under the chairmanship of Mr Tearle. We also accept that he did not take part in the decision making process.

We also suggested that the Conservative Cabinet was responsible for a substantial loss of investment income. We did not intend to suggest that Mr Tearle bore any personal responsibility for decisions in respect of particular investments.

We wish to apologise to him for any misunderstanding that may have arisen as a result.

Come fly with us!

Contributed by editor on Nov 07, 2005 - 03:43 PM


Come fly with us!

Great Paper Plane Race 2005


Folkestone Herald announcement

Fun for all the family will be on offer this Saturday (November 12) at the Herald's Annual Great Paper Plane Race!

The event is starting at 12 noon in Hawkinge village hall, Canterbury Road.

Top prizes will be on offer, including tickets for a family day out at Port Lympne, and a limited edition Harry Potter First Day Cover and Cineworld tickets.

For more information contact the Folkestone Herald newsdesk on 01303 851656.

We hope to see you there!

Sorry saga continues

Contributed by editor on Nov 06, 2005 - 11:14 PM


by Cyril Trice

The Hawkinge Saturday team suffered an humiliating defeat in their league match against Saga who totally outclassed the home side.

Hawkinge 0, Saga 10
The Sunday team playing away in Kent FA Junior Cup 2nd round against Sturry cruised to an impressive win taking them comfortably into the next round.
Sturry 1, Hawkinge 3
scorers for Hawkinge , Ben Coker, Tom Whellam, Matt Wratten.
The Hawkinge U15's played at home to Eythorne Rovers in a league match, but it left the youngsters still seaching for goals. Even the o­ne o­n the scoresheet was knocked into the net by the visitors.

The team can hold its own in the midfield and take the ball to the point of scoring, but that final touch is still letting them down.

Hawkinge 1 ( own goal) , Eythorne Rovers 4

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